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Episode 220: Gaining and Giving

Words & Numbers

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The Cost of Freedom

"I think we owe a debt to people who came before. I mean, even if it's only the kind of debt that you understand in your mind and don't talk about all that much," he says. "The thing that we shouldn't take for granted is that I can't help but if I'm lucky is a good enough reason to just let it stay where it is."

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