I think it's I got caught up so much in the subjective versus objective being you versus the rest of the world, but it's true that it's not a satisfying theory. So he says, for example, people are now told that an early age that all matter is really energy, but despite the fact that they know what is means, most of them never form a case. Never form a conception of what makes this claim true because they lack the theoretical background. And so like, yeah, if you tell me that matter is energy, I like that doesn't, but doesn't really help me. If I had the right theoretical background, I could understand what that is, but I

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