Data feels like it's about 10 to 15 years behind software. But the notion of like MVC which you know rails I think adopted back in the day is kind of interesting. It sort of represents a similar issue type of conversation of how do we start decoupling out the view layer from the model layer and so forth. So, and it's funny also you know like maybe to follow up on one of the questions that previously be asked about application data modeling.

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