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S7 Ep9: Putin’s war on Ukraine with Matthew Orr

Secrets and Spies Podcast: Current Affairs | Geopolitics | Intelligence

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What Drew Your Interest in Russia and Eastern Europe?

I was always fascinated about how people of the older generation could grow up, be trained in a certain ideology and then watch that entire ideology fall apart in front of their eyes. I started studying, getting really interested in Russia a couple years prior to the annexation of Crimea. If Putin's ambitions and dreams had been revealed kind of at the time, it probably would not have been politically popular. And I don't think Yeltsin would have named him as a successor.

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