Speaker 1
Mean, he like, definitely did wellant,
Speaker 2
it makes total sense to me that the stuff that he clearly did is a stuff that he's going to deny. Because, of course, it's easy to confess to a crime you didn't commit in this logic. You know, yes, exactly. Do we think that he killed any one, aside from these people in his life that he knew, like, as there persuasive evidence of that, is it just a grayer
Speaker 1
so, you know, once, once these reports come out that that call hiscon sons into question, you have sort of like the opposite kind of media frenzid than you did the first time around. So he's likey there's like this other big, other rush of interviews with him, and, and now he starts saying, like, i only killed three people. I called my mam and becky or frida, that's the girl, you know, who is tis toll's niece, you know, this other girl that he molested and travelled with, and kate rich, the older woman. Like, i only killed those three people. And then sometimes he says like, oh, no, i only killed my mother, like, she's the only one i killed, which, like, that seems very clearly alive. Definitely pretty clearly killed those. You know, this is also like an appealing story, and this is where it starts to feel really tangled, right? And he's like, oh, you know, i just did all those confessions because, you know, i wanted to expose the incompetence of the police. Sure you did
Speaker 1
right? Exactly. Like it was all this, like, elaborate, you know, manipulation game that i was doing. Bright.
Speaker 2
Isn't it so funny that, like, popular media, law enforcement, government, like everyone who is steering in america is like really behind and like, conservative people, i think, a lot at the time, are really behind this ideaof, like, he was five dimensional just the entire time. And it's like, really? Don't you think that this was like, primarily just about strawberry milk shakes? And
Speaker 1
this is, again, wit git's really hard to know what really happened. I mean, you don't want to take henry lee lucas's word for it, right? Like, a notorious, multiply proven liar, like, just such a liar, and so willing to tell us what we want to hear, right? And so what he's saying is like, oh, the police fed me the answers. They showed me case files. They told me what to say. They coached me. Andou like, i could totally believe that that's true. I could also totally believe that he made that up. I could believe tat maybe something in between, right? Where people aren't necessarily feeding him the answers, but kind of asking, may we see this a lot, right? Like, police asking leading questions, whether they realize they're doing it or not.