"I'm just not born to be a programmer. And if I started to write in our or Python or scripting whatever like. Oh, sexy where's the benefit it is?" she says. "If you are promoted or if you're appreciated for doing something, just continue doing that." 'You can feel if try to get from the conversation with people from the context, try to feel if more skills in certain directions,' he adds.'So your will to learn to code might not necessarily support your growth support your role support your career.'