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How to Create a Cloud Specific Risk Framework
I would start by saying that creating a cloud specific risk framework requires a lot of expertise and going back to what Andy says about maturity and and governance. There are a lot of really good frameworks out there done by real professionals that you can just take and use it as it is, and then go ahead and and we're reworked to meet your business needs. Otherwise, just starting from a very high bar of creating your own cloud framework could be very hard for organizations. And I like this idea of your security program should be, what can we actually do easily and non experts do easily,. which seems to be the thing that's holding a lot of people back in cloud.