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Forget downloads, "Listen Time" maybe a better way to measure podcast success.

Podnews Weekly Review

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Apple Podcasts - Number Five, Health and Fitness, True Crime, and Number One, Society and Culture

Apple doesn't care about downloads, we'd much rather look at total listen time. Health and fitness occasionally moves up to number four instead of number five. The data we're told by Apple Podcasts hasn't changed over the last six months. But yeah, I found that really interesting.

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