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I think it's fair. I mean, the move in real rates, it's not just a front end real rate, look at where 10-year real rates are. And so I think this is where we need to be patient. We actually think they're going to be patient and go at 25, try and feel their way around that endpoint,. But we are in restrictive territory. There's no question. We just got there pretty late last year though. Very good. Thank you so much for joining us from the fixed income fallout shelter.