Washington just lived through a “Seinfeld shutdown”—a 43-day government closure over… basically nothing. Or was it nothing?

This week, Ron Steslow is joined by Peter Suderman (features editor at Reason and host of the Reason Roundtable) to unpack the weirdest shutdown in modern memory and the deeply broken healthcare system underneath it.

They dig into why Democrats picked this fight, why they folded even while winning the blame game, and what it says about Obamacare that it now needs emergency subsidies for the emergency subsidies.

Then, from World War II wage controls to Hillarycare to the ACA, Peter walks through how America accidentally built three-and-a-half overlapping healthcare systems—and why both parties are in denial about the bill coming due.

In Politicology+ they dive into the battle between the Abundance Agenda and the ascendent socialism on the left

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