I think we're at an impossible fund-to-see-act moment in terms of nations and democracy. I felt like with all those conditions existing, Hillary Clinton was to me the best bet. She seemed highly functional, greatly willing, female. All the things that it seems like such a job as being president of the United States would require. It's almost impossible on some level to take elections that seriously, except that we have to do something.
Debbie talks to poet Eileen Myles about poetry, fame, and politics.