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Well, they kept bringing up the point of a banker, like that's so much better than the life of a banker, you know, who doesn't want to go to work and doesn't want to deal with customers and just is sitting around all day. That is we are not, we are not supposed to be like that. Like our brains are not supposed to do these things. Yeah, I don't think I agree, but like, I mean, we are now, but we do podcasting. We're not going to turn around tomorrow and go live in a tent and start hunting. It's different. I'm just saying it's, it's more natural for us to be a part of the land and a part of a community and whether or not modern society does this or not anymore. Back in the 1860s, it was obviously a lot different. It just seems to me like if you are in a society where there's a community of people that care for each other, there's so much more love and so much less ego, I think is what it comes down to. Yeah. I think it comes down to possibly. But how we've always been up until very, very, very recently, do you think though that it could just be that everyone has a sense of purpose in those sorts of tribes? Absolutely. They know what they need to learn, what their position will be, what they're growing into. Whereas in regular society, you know, this is why people like Jordan Peterson and other influential kind of motivational individuals are like always find your purpose. Because it's harder to do when you're in kind of a modern, western life. So much distraction. Yeah. And still look at Cog in the wheel, in the giant machine. But if you are in that tribal situation in that community where everyone is helping each other out, you know, you're dancing at night, you're by the fire, you're looking at the stars every night, you're camping out basically every day, how wonderful is that? That's what we've always done. And for him to bring that up. Like being hunted by other tribes and going to war, that's pretty brutal. There's fear from that too. But on the nights that maybe they felt felt safe, those that is, that is where you feel more like a, like a, I don't want to say more human, but you just, you don't feel all of this stress and anxiety from external things other than, yeah, maybe there's a tribe coming to kill your ass. But like, what else are you scared of? I don't think that you feel like what is the point of my life? Right. I think that you know, yeah, you know your, what the point is. Yeah. You're like, oh, I have this role. We got to keep people safe. I'm going to grow into this. This is what my position is. Whereas if you're in an apartment and you work in this nine to five and you got this college debt and you struggle in to save, it's like great. And that just goes on. This is why people are moving away from it. In England, they just announced this thing where a hundred British companies have moved to the four day work week. I saw that. And I think that I really hope that's the start. So they were basically saying when I read the little bit on it, that this is just kind of like this archaic thinking from the industrial age, like get the most out of people Monday through Friday, nine to five plus get just get them working. Yeah. And now these companies are going to test this and see if they get more productivity. They will. Yet they pay them the same. They will. These people don't take less money home, which is important. And maybe the companies actually get more out of the people. I bet 100% they will get better productivity. I believe it. Fucking Lutely. This is a great experiment. And this is coming into some, you know, because the key is it's not to say that like people in native tribes will work every day hard every day, but it's kind of things that they see the value in, right? They see how it helps others, keeps everything going and it's things they want to do. They feel a responsibility for it. Well, we can't do that with every job. There's going to be plenty of jobs if you work in a call center, wherever you're never going to feel like this is helping the community or like making a big change, probably.