The Importance of Criticism in a Presidential Campaign

"He's very smart and he could wow people in a debate. But if you're running against the guy who did America first 1.0, what do you say? Are you saying 1.0 was done?" "I just don't, if he's on stage with Donald Trump, what does it affect say about how, oh boy, I just, I just want to take the banner and do more"? 'That's where his whole game kind of falls apart'