Frankenheimer had been in streaming for four years, so he had the data to know that it was going to be successful. He looked at human beings as essentially like sofware, and part of the, you know, infra structure of the company. And basically, he kind of gives her credit for, he doesn't say this explicitly, but the kind of undercurrent is she gave him the empathy, like chip, and made him start to think about how to make this new culture....

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