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Ep 583 - Normal People, by Sally Rooney (w/ Vanessa Zoltan)

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The Good End of Hope

"I think it's so beautiful okay he he brought her goodness like a gift and now it belongs to her meanwhile his life opens out before him in all directions at once they've done a lot of good for each other really she thinks really people can really change one another you should go," says the author. "There does seem to be a limit to how much each of them has like learned and grown from the way that this cycle has gone for them in the past."

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