The Relationship Between EP and Talent

I think part of what you're talking about her being likable is that she's self-aware. She and I had also spoken about the kind of, she was talking to different EPs at the time that NBC was having her meet with them. So it sounds like she's worked out a good solution. And it's great time to have her on because there's so much to discuss with her,. But also asking her to put on her old strategy hat and comms hat ahead of an important election.