People confuse negative reinforcement and punishment, I think understandably because like both are almost certainly happening if there's an immersive event. So a positive reward be like, give it out of the tree. A negative reward would be like, take away something the dog doesn't like to do. If you're rewarding your dog a lot, your dog actually wants to be involved in training,. Whereas on the punishment side, people don't like being punished. The animal person is like going to want to avoid those kind of interactions with you.

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