Kathy: I was listening to a podcast yesterday, Kathy, and someone was talking about really sort of our deepest rooted beliefs that we have about about ourselves and about the world. And he said too many times we act like it's a journey that has a destination and instead he preferred an analogy of a farm. Christina: My recommendation for us today is called Learning from Plants by Rhonda Montgomery. She says if my plant is dying, I don't blame the plant. I think it needs what does it need? Does it need better soil? Do it need better light? Am I watering it enough? How can I contribute to the condition so this plant will thrive? So she uses that