"It's a combination of labeling the negatives but from their perspective and I just know on a regular basis from kidnappers in the Philippines to business people in Korea you know I've had enough people do this across the world and trigger breakthrough and negotiations that I just know it works well" "I'm a big fan of Chaldini stuff and I've had the privilege of being on the same stage as him lecturing he's a brilliant guy. We studied Chaldinistuff when I was a hostage negotiator because he talks about universal principles of human nature," she says.

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