Radio Lab, You Have to Do It in Two Stages

"I sort of figured out a long time ago at radio lab, that you have to do it in two stages. There's this sort of, when you're in that creative process where you don't know if it's yet a thing," he says. "There's a small group of people i will show it to and then with some of them thornier ones, like the later episodes that got into race."

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