How Did You Get Your First Handful?

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I never wanted to be a podcaster like that wasn't my ambition at the start. The podcast came to you because I put out on Twitter Who wants to talk on the phone and then I had 20 phenomenal phone conversations that what I was like? Those should have been recorded Like why weren't those recorded because someone out there sometime in the future can gain value from the things that I've We've said in this conversation, so I should put those out So that's how the podcast came to be. It's an honor to be interviewed by you because you were somebody who I looked at and I was like David Porell he's doing life the right way"

David Perell is a writer and the creator of Write of Passage - an online writing school focused on building the next generation of internet citizens. In March 2020, I stumbled across David’s account and was blown away by his tweets. They were thoughtful and insightful. So when he suggested interviewing me at his brand new studio, I was honored.

In this conversation we spoke about some of my podcasting secrets, how I do my research, why I admire people like Joe Rogan, Tim Ferriss, Chris Williamson, and Taylor Rooks, the biggest area I believe I need to improve as a podcaster, and what I’m usually doing on Sunday at noon. Some of what we talked about I’ve never shared publicly, and it’s only because of David’s ability as an interviewer to get it out of me.

(0:00) Intro

(2:24) My Research Process

(5:03) Gary Vaynerchuk Calls My Mom

(7:05) Coming Back To Writing

(9:01) Moving To Austin

(11:30) Long Island

(13:03) Ambition

(14:01) What Makes For A Great Podcaster?

(17:30) Who Do I Admire?

(20:02) Aesthetics

(21:22) How Am I Misunderstood?

(22:11) Grandparents