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What Gets You Out of Bed in the Morning?
Sally Kohn: I was thinking communitas so much and also just like how fucking hard it is to cultivate communitas at a time during COVID. And you mentioned hope. So what are a couple other of these like meaning 3.0 elements that help and what gets you out of bed in the morning?Kohn: Good, good hearted, well-intentioned stuff. It's just with no illusions that any of it's going to matter it in. That's the Bhagavad Gita bit, right? If you're going to try and transform the world, there's all there's a world of hurt coming for you.