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“The Old Man and the CPAC.”

Pod Save America

CHAPTER

The Tea Party Seed Planted in 2011

Ron DeSantis is the Tea Party seed planted in 2011, he says. Trump was president for four years and never thought of attaching himself to something like this. He needs to spin it, though, because Ron DeSantis isn't going to be indicted for anything,. And he needs to make it a badge of honor. But I think any kind of prediction like that is silly.

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