I've definitely been the person to throw the pen and hold the grenade. And that's not a positive experience. So my my spidey senses always go up of like, okay, I'm going to need a little bit more before I feel comfortable tossing a number over the fence. But yeah, we'll just really quick to go back to something you were saying earlier, Mo about how you don't like the, you know, setting aside initiative for like educating stakeholders. Back to taking advantage of like teachable moments.

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