How to Get the Benefits of Tightness and Looseness in a Pandemic

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Kaya: How do we get the benefits of both tightness and looseness? Kaya: Is it that you just say that this society is as it is, or is there any way to nudge the maturness in this regard? And pushing a country to mature. Gosh, that's something we need to think more about. This has been so, so enlightening for me and also just great fun to Kaya. Thank you for taking the time to do it. You've been an inspiration for me.

Kaja Kallas is the current Prime Minister of Estonia – and the first woman to hold the position. Her perceptive communication and bold action against the threat of Russian authoritarianism has bolstered her reputation as a leader we should all be paying attention to. The Prime Minister talks to Adam about what we can learn from the past when thinking about future consequences, the risks of being inauthentic, and what qualities distinguish the best leaders from the rest. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts