I worry that there's like a certain amount of retreading. There's only really only so many things that we can say on that show. It's just that they need to be said and need to be re-heard, I believe. When I say ad nauseam that taking on more things than you can do is a road to frustration or that being creative is about doing things repeatedly without regard to whether you get a merit badge for it... But he's a very gracious guy. He sends me more, way more presents than I send him. And we talk about our lives. Some of that comes through on the show. But like I say, it's a little meta."