The Only Way to Express Europe

We can't abandon our principles the minute one side turns illiberal. That's just a recipe for all of us going down the drain. We couldn't even to each other withouti but we could publish magazines in the most homophobic country on earth in the 19 fifties, and we could still communicate. And that was what allowed us to sustain this over time. For the long time, that was the only way to express europe. That was the freedom that got you your freedoms. Yes, it was the it was the premise for everything that followed. You have a lot to talk about, but we'll have to say that for another time. I really appreciate you coming on.