Catherine Perez-Shakdam joins The Winston Marshall Show for an astonishing firsthand account of how she infiltrated Iran’s inner circle—posing as a devout Muslim to gain access to the highest levels of the regime.

In this explosive conversation, Perez-Shakdam reveals how she met the Ayatollah, was recruited by Tehran’s ideological machine, and witnessed the brutal inner workings of a regime obsessed with control, martyrdom, and religious supremacy.

She details the psychological toll of living a double life, the whispers of internal dissent, and the ideology she describes as “genocidal.”

They explore the regime’s strategic use of Western converts, the manipulation of media narratives, and how Iran exports its revolutionary vision far beyond its borders.

All this—espionage, radicalisation, religious indoctrination, and one woman’s battle to expose the truth from inside the heart of the Islamic Republic…

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction

02:20 Who is Catherine Perez-Shakdam?

08:42 Marriage and Living a Double Life

19:45 Becoming a Propaganda Tool

28:30 Witnessing Brutality in the Middle East

40:37 The Turning Point

58:10 Iran’s Propaganda Machine in the West

1:06:02 Why Catherine Went Public

1:18:26 Interaction with Qasem Soleimani

1:26:09 The Role of the West

1:30:25 Meeting The Ayatollah and the Regime's Ideology

1:43:59 The Popularity of the Regime

1:47:44 The Role of the Crown Prince

1:55:00 Final Reflections & Hope for Change

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