Rufus: I really enjoyed that one. If you want to hear the whole con sation, all you have to do is down load the next big idea ap and join the club. That was a head spinner of a conversation, reminiscent of some late nights in college. You got to love those college nights. But before we get off into serti a cheechenchong rabbit hole, i want to come back to something david chamesjus said at the end of that clip right? He makes the point that if consciousness is the by product of how a physical system processes information, then it houldn't matter whether that physical system is biological, like a