A system of collective intelligence cannot scale with the number of people, it can't include everybody. And so as long as i have a curve where more people don't keep adding adaptive capacity, well, then those people will always have an incentive to defect against that system. If you look at geffrey west's work, ot of senifa institute is book scale is a classic example. So one way of saying what needs to happen is that we systems of collective intelligence and collective sense making and choice making increase with scale effectively.