Is There a Touring Test for Goal Oriented Behavior?

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The term goal is such a important and difficult to explain concept, right? Because what you want is a way is like, I think only conscious beings can have conscious goals. Everything else is doing selection, but selection does invent goals. And in a way that biology reinterprets the past in the present is kind of how that was a goal in the past now. It's kind of like goals only exist back in time. So, if you've got two objects, we were thinking about this. We actually got some funding to work to go on to teams. The line between conscious goals and non conscious goals, exactly. Also maybe just on top of that, you said a touring

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(00:00) – Introduction
(07:47) – Aliens
(21:53) – What is life?
(29:35) – Assembly theory
(52:03) – Math
(1:03:45) – Communication with aliens
(1:28:38) – Evolution of the universe
(1:37:56) – Creating alien life
(1:45:29) – Origin of life
(1:52:29) – Before the Big Bang
(1:59:22) – God
(2:09:39) – Goal-directed behavior
(2:27:37) – Time
(2:35:54) – Free will and imagination
(2:51:06) – UFO sightings
(2:56:06) – Alien life forms debate
(3:11:14) – Robots
(3:20:29) – Love and emotion
(3:38:55) – Beauty in science
(3:49:06) – Random questions
(3:58:30) – Advice for young people
(4:01:48) – Life on Earth
(4:06:12) – Memory