The idea that fat was bad for you in the first place and that you were supposed to eat whole grains as like part of a healthy diet? I mean, it was just some sort of conspiracy. Look, it was all those things. It was just nice people blundering and thinking that the cholesterol story led to this idea. And so and now industry had a hand in that they had a big hand in crafting US dietary guidelines... 70% of all human calories on this planet now come from grains. Even though grains were never a part of the human diet until relatively recently. Right. The fat is not even like in the equation. Not even on the how. Not evenon the

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