Enclave - I'm Not a Role Model

There's varying degrees, like you said, of engagement. So it could be someone that just has one story to tell and being able to use that with on could even keep or there's like a David Tyree that you've inspired him to build a digital brand. I think the biggest thing for us when it comes to making content is asking people what they would do if they were in your shoes. Tell me about the first time you met Ben Rossberger. He says, well, he says, if I'm talking to you and he didn't describe it so nicely and we're going to post a piece of content so I don't feel bad saying it. It was a toxic disaster