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The Methodological Shift of Reversal in Political Philosophy
David Frum: I'm always intrigued when find out that people have their entry point into philosophy was, was, was by way of Plato. So let's talk about the book. This is sort of where the book begins with the methodological shift that your book advocates and then makes. And so, essentially, transform are the conceptual tools that we bring it to our efforts to address sort of fundamental normative questions and political philosophy.