Cloud Code and Building API Wrappers

Join me, Nik (https://x.com/CoFoundersNik), as I sit down with Elizabeth Knopf (https://x.com/leveragedupside) to demystify OpenAI's newest creation, the Agent Builder.

We set the context by explaining the crucial difference between simple, static if-then automation and a true agent, which requires autonomy, memory, and decision-making capabilities in a workflow. This tool is designed to finally make building complex agentic workflows accessible to business owners who aren't technical experts.

Liz walks us through the platform.openai.com/playground interface and demos a real-world research agent in action. We dive deep into the cost structure, explaining why OpenAI charges based on a high-call usage-based model using API calls, which can "add up really quickly", instead of a flat monthly subscription like ChatTPT.We compare it head-to-head with competitors like N8n, Lindy, and Zapier. While the Agent Builder UI is "way less intimidating" and features like Guardrails are valuable for mitigating hallucinations and protecting sensitive data, Liz reveals that the execution is "not quite there yet". Questions This Episode Answers:

• What is the core difference between an Agent and a standard business Automation?

• Why does OpenAI use a usage-based model for Agent Builder instead of a flat monthly fee?

• How does OpenAI’s new Agent Builder compare directly to tools like Zapier, N8n, or Lindy?

• What are Guardrails, and how do they protect internal business documents and mitigate hallucinations?

• What are the most likely and best use cases for building business agents right now?

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This week we covered:00:00 Introduction to OpenAI's Agent Builder

03:05 Understanding Agents vs. Automation

05:48 Navigating the OpenAI Interface

09:09 Exploring Use Cases and Templates

11:57 Building a Research Bot with Agent Builder

14:49 Guardrails and Safety in Agent Workflows

18:04 Live Demo: Data Enrichment Use Case

20:55 Sentiment Analysis on Social Media

23:48 Challenges and Limitations of Agent Builder

27:05 Comparing Agent Builder with Other Tools

29:52 Future Potential and User Experience

33:03 Conclusion and Call to Action