The Importance of Evidence Collecting Journalism

I was like, oh thank God I was very I was gonna scream at John Ronson for two hours right? No, it's so much. too no I totally agree with you Yeah, I was that's that's what was so interesting to me the experience of listening to it Is because as you're bringing up the evidence throughout it, you know in that kind of true crime way. And then it ends with as a sort of tribute to the old values of like evidence gathering Journalism and suppose to ideological journalism.