Luke: I think one of the things that I've taken away, you know, first of all, no surprise research actually helps you tackle these problems. The other thing is like our company DX we just have a no BS kind of rule when it comes to working with researchers on this problem. Luke: There's just a lot of promise in the research that a lot of folks across the industry are doing companies like Google Microsoft they're putting a lot of good knowledge to work.
Matthew and Luke lead Extend’s Developer Experience team, a team that has approached their work in a way that is more forward-thinking than most. In this episode, they cover how they deliver impact at multiple levels of the organization, their journey with productivity metrics, and how they’ve made DevEx a C-level concern.
Discussion points:
- (1:40) How the DevEx team started and where it fits at Extend
- (5:08) Tradeoffs of DevEx reporting into Platform
- (6:40) The mandate and tasks they focus on
- (12:07) The impact of learning and development efforts
- (16:33) How to drive team-level improvements
- (18:44) Why developer experience is becoming more prevalent
- (26:17) How they made DevEx a C-level concern
- (30:27) Their journey with productivity metrics
- (33:10) Advice for presenting DevEx data to executives
- (34:52) The team’s experience using git metrics tools
- (48:30) Being rigorous in leveraging metrics
Mentions and links:
Connect with Matthew and Luke on LinkedIn
Other podcasts mentioned: Manuel Pais; Peloton’s DevEx survey