The author has had a career out of doing side projects for the military. He says he's turned down better opportunities to keep doing what he loves. But when his drone project unravelled, "i was kind of left with the flaming wreckage" The book is published by Simon & Schuster at $24.99.
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Author and Air Force officer Mark Jacobsen joins Joe to discuss failure. Specifically, what it looks like, feels like, and how we can grow from it. Additionally, Mark talks with Joe about innovation and entrepreneurship, grappling with identity in the military, and his new book, Eating Glass: The Inner Journey Through Failure and Renewal.