In the early 19 nineties, someone in the white house wondered what was known about the value of triplicate programmes. The request got kicked over to the national institute of drug abuse, nida. Nida rounded up everyone who might know something about triplicates and invited them to a conference at a hotel near its headquarters in rockville, maryland. This is 19 91. Oxiconton will be introduced in 19 96, five years later. But opioid overdoses were still high enough in those years that people were starting to get worried about the problem. So it was like, wilv, this is it. And i believed in a lot of these policies.