The idea of not dismantling, but masely, like obliterating it, you know, the um. And then you anceof the arab spring,. which was about a decade ago now, and where it's interesting to me, because i studied that pretty deeply. I remember having this conversation weth ruth king on in conversation a couple of years back; she has also been fiercely involved in the movement for generations or 60 years. She said: "A lot of people like this feels palpably different"

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