The Flock Friday Session With Zoe and Sheerston Rosenberg

Sometimes it is easy for all of us who care about animals to forget what an extraordinary contribution sanctuaries make to our understanding of the animals we try to serve. Elan Abrell joins us this week to remind us never to take sanctuaries for granted. Elan is a cultural anthropologist who’s dedicated himself to animal studies and, recently, to a close and thoughtful look at animal sanctuaries. His book, Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care, examines how sanctuary caregivers respond to an extraordinary range of moral issues while working with minimal resources. He describes what his role as a cultural anthropologist entails, walks us through his decisions on which sanctuaries to study, including one for companion animals, one for exotic animals, and one for farmed animals, and shares how he evaluated their general philosophy in regard to interacting with and caring for animals. Elan also gives an overview of the differences in various sanctuary approaches and whether he believes sanctuaries can provide animals with genuinely happy lives.

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Elan Abrell is a cultural anthropologist whose research and writing focus on human-animal interactions, environmental justice, and food politics. His book, Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care (University of Minnesota Press 2021) — an ethnography of animal sanctuaries and winner of the 2022 Gregory Bateson Book Prize from the Society for Cultural Anthropology — examines how sanctuary caregivers respond to a range of ethical dilemmas and material constraints while attempting to meet the various and sometimes conflicting needs of rescued animals. Elan is an assistant professor of the practice in Environmental Studies, Science in Society, and Integrative Sciences at Wesleyan University. He is also the coordinator of Wesleyan’s new Animal Studies Minor.

“Just the idea that sanctuaries exist shifts the way that others see animals—from objects that satisfy your needs or desires to beings who are worthy of care and support.” – Elan Abrell

Highlights for Episode 684: 

• Elan explains how animal sanctuaries, despite sharing fundamental principles, can differ when it comes to what they hope to achieve
• The attitudes surrounding animal deaths at the sanctuaries Elan visited 
• The anomaly of sanctuaries, such as those for companion animals  or exotic animals, that are run by individuals who don’t adhere to vegan diets
• The conflicts around the decision to euthanize animals in sanctuaries
• The problems with sanctuaries serving as tourist attractions
• The goal of the sanctuary movement and ideas for how humans and animals could live in harmony
• Why so many people want to start a sanctuary and Elan’s thoughts on the challenges of creating an animal sanctuary
• Why Elan believes that caring for animals should be a governmental function
• The impact sanctuaries have on the way people think about animals
• Elan’s chapter in the new book The Good it Promises, the Harm It Does: Critical Essays on Effective Altruism, and why he is dubious about the focus some supporters of effective altruism have adopted

Resources:

• Join the new Our Hen House Community and RSVP for the launch party with Gene Baur & Myq Kaplan

Connect with Elan Abrell:

• Elan Abrell on Twitter
• Elan Abrell on LinkedIn
• Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care by Elan Abrell
• The Good It Promises, the Harm It Does: Critical Essays on Effective Altruism eds. Carol J. Adams,  Alica Crary, and Lori Gruen

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