The Importance of Animal Consciousness

I think the answer is pretty obvious given that we just came off of like an hour and a half conversation or whether or not I can ever say a thing is like objectively right or wrong. The type of human mind that would torture an animal is probably a very unhealthy human mind. So yeah, I'm perfectly happy to go and, you know, torture dogs and vacuum seal cats in a bag, but I'm never going to do that for humans because I only care about humans just like, just like Steven does.