Dye: We take a one real world asset approach. That's why you get a higher interest rate than the risk-free rate at the Fed or reverse repose. And we're not going to loan to like renewable energy or whatever or some other banks and stuff. It's too difficult to assess that kind of risk. Dye: There is no ad scale. If you end up doing some of these riskier loans that can default, like, they can default but likely probably won't.

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