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The Rise and Expansion of Java
With VB, you know, often this language of these B strings and you know, and things which didn't look like D words or interpret things. And if something didn't work, all you got was like, it just crashed, right? And debugging was a nightmare. It was painful. So yeah, with VV, it was so hard because, okay, but by the way, what are these folks talking about? But but but in VB, I would say, which dominated the industry was the rise, excitement, and then the fall of Java.