Star Trek: The Next Generation

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Emma Watson: Amazon's contribution to humanity is going to be that they figure out a new way to destroy unions, de value human labor and basically streamize this normal economy. She says the company has reinvented itself by pointing everyone at its " shiny vision" of the space future where packages are delivered on mars. But in fact, she writes, it's just an amazing system for de valuing human labor.

Paris Marx is joined by Annalee Newitz to discuss what’s wrong with Silicon Valley’s understanding of science fiction, and how tech leaders use it to justify terrible futures.

Annalee Newitz is the author of Four Lost Cities: A Secret History of the Urban Age and The Future of Another Timeline. They are also the co-host of Our Opinions Are Correct and a writer for NYT Opinion and New Scientist. Follow Annalee on Twitter at @Annaleen.

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Also mentioned in this episode:

Annalee wrote about what tech companies don’t get about science fiction for New Scientist.
Paris wrote about the dystopian future proposed by the metaverse.
The Verge spoke to Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss, but the interviewer suggested The Matrix was trying to predict where technology was going.
In 1985, Ursula K. Le Guin wrote about science fiction and the future.
Facebook is already failing to combat harassment in VR, and its incoming CTO thinks doing so in the metaverse is “practically impossible.”
People mentioned: Frankenstein author Mary Shelley, JPL engineer Jack Parsons, and Trekonomics author Manu Saadia.
Annalee’s reading suggestions: Ring Shout by P Djeli Clark, Murderbot series by Martha Wells, Infomocracy by Malka Older, An Excess Male by Maggie Shen King, Rosewater by Tade Thompson, Waste Tide by Chen Qiufan, Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie, and Broken Earth by N.K. Jemisin.