How Do You Get 60 Dons?

Ers, his madnyi figure maybe you could pull the 35 grand out of the scottish widow. I'd no idea what the rules are with i checked,. like eight years ago, and it looked like it was basically impossible to move the money before i was 55. Some of the, some of my emergency fund has been designated for a house. Mark, do you disagree with that? Because i know you want her to convert, but i just feel like if we need the cash for the down payment, that's going to be more important than converting to a roth.