i think there are some broadcasters, i'm not to name any, who kind of exploit their audience by continuing a narrative which they know isn't true. Most people don't give a ship about trans and most ordinary citizens in this world do not know anybody whos trans or care what they think. I just think it's really dangerous tat the fact that logic is generally speaking, the best place to be. And wokin, like a true bill gad shill theremy of course. This seems good to have you back on the show. Always a pleasure chatting with you. Er, we're going to do a couple of questions for our supporters only after the interview, but before we

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