Men and women enter undergraduate a philosophy at about the same rates, but women leave faster. One reason is that thereha been a tendency in anlic philosophy to treat the question of how people perform early in the subject as an indication of whether have this thing, this it that can make for good, good philosophy. But i think they because so there sumes some psychological evidence about this. Men, boys and young men are more likely to resist a little bit and to insist on trying again. We spend a lot of our time making sure that we don't do the things that alienate them. Another whole category of people can be alienated by college where they don't have parents who went to

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