TIVP053: Exor NV (EXO): Too Good To Be True? w/ Shawn O’Malley & Daniel Mahncke
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Ownership, Voting Power, and Incentives
Shawn details Agnelli family voting control, Elkann's compensation, buybacks, and share count reduction.
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Exor NV (ticker: EXO), a unique holding company that has acted as a vehicle for the family wealth of Fiat’s founder, but now poses a compelling arbitrage opportunity, with Exor’s stock trading at nearly a 60% discount to its net asset value.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 – Intro
00:04:55 – How Ferrari became Exor’s largest investment
00:06:16 – Whether Exor actually offers discounted exposure to companies like Ferrari, Stellantis, and CNH
00:16:48 – What markets Exor is focusing on most now
00:19:45 – Why Exor trades at such a discount to its NAV
00:42:02 – Why Exor trimmed part of its Ferrari stake
00:45:01 – Why Exor is unlikely to be forced to realize its NAV by outsiders
00:51:03 – Why Exor reclassified itself from an industrial conglomerate to an investment company
01:00:11 – How to think about modeling EXO’s intrinsic value
01:09:24 – Whether Shawn and Daniel add EXO to their Intrinsic Value Portfolio
*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.
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