Introduction

State of ukraine is a special podcast featuring the latest an p r news coverage and analysis of the ongoing crisis in ukraine. This week we talk with n pierrs ryan lucas, who is in eastern ukraine, and en pierres gregmiry,. who is in the capital in kive. We're going to talk through these dual realities with n pierRS ryanLucas: "The war is really an ever present thing here, not in an abstract way" The next episode will be aired on Monday at 9pm ET/PT (11am GMT).